Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/28/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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-- Public Testimony --
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Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Invited Testimony: Scott McManus, Superintendent,
Alaska Gateway School District; Andy Degraw,
Chief Operations Officer, Fairbanks North Star
Borough School District; Dr. Randy Trani,
Superintendent, Mat-Su Borough School District;
Katie Gardner, Deputy Superintendent of Business
and Operations, Mat-Su Borough School District;
Andy Ratliff, Superintendent and Chief Financial
Officer, Anchorage School District; and Kasie
Luke, Superintendent, Lake and Peninsula School
District
HOUSE BILL NO. 65                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to education; increasing the base                                                                         
     student allocation; and providing for an effective                                                                         
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  MACMANUS,   SUPERINTENDENT,  ALASKA   GATEWAY  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT  (via teleconference),  thanked  the committee  for                                                                    
the  opportunity to  speak in  support of  timely, reliable,                                                                    
and  predictable school  funding. He  reviewed a  PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation titled  "COVID Relief  Funds in  Alaska Gateway                                                                    
School District" (copy  on file). He stated that  the use of                                                                    
COVID funding  in the Alaska Gateway  School District (AGSD)                                                                    
was  directly  tied  to  the   district's  approach  to  the                                                                    
pandemic. The  district included five villages  and the town                                                                    
of  Tok.  He detailed  that  the  approach  in each  of  the                                                                    
communities was  very different and  the use of  COVID funds                                                                    
was intended to reflect that.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus thought  it was helpful to  understand that the                                                                    
use  of the  word "unobligated"  in the  department's report                                                                    
did not mean  unplanned for; it meant the funds  had not yet                                                                    
been drawn  down. He stated  that the department  had access                                                                    
to  what each  district  had planned  regarding  the use  of                                                                    
funds. He noted  there had been a lag period  in the time it                                                                    
had  taken to  get the  information to  the legislature.  He                                                                    
turned  to slide  2  showing an  overview  of district  cost                                                                    
increases. The  figures reflected audited numbers  from 2017                                                                    
to 2022. He  noted the numbers did not  include the increase                                                                    
in salary  cost or  health insurance that  had gone  up 34.8                                                                    
percent (an increase of $500,000).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  MacManus  turned to  slide  3  showing a  breakdown  of                                                                    
district  funding  allocations from  the  FY  22 audit.  The                                                                    
district  spent   70  percent   of  its  general   funds  on                                                                    
instruction and  4 percent of  its funds  on administration.                                                                    
The  Department of  Education and  Early Development  (DEED)                                                                    
reported  five  categories.  The  first  was  the  operating                                                                    
reserve fund, which  was $1.1 million for  AGSD. He detailed                                                                    
that the  amount was right  at the  10 percent that  was not                                                                    
subject  to limitation  and was  used  for AGSD's  emergency                                                                    
fund. The amount  would keep the district  running for about                                                                    
two months  at the most and  was kept on hand  to enable the                                                                    
district to address  a roof collapse, a  ceiling falling in,                                                                    
or  a  boiler going  down.  The  second category  was  pupil                                                                    
transportation:  the  district initially  had  approximately                                                                    
$75,000  for  the  service   and  would  have  approximately                                                                    
$20,000 remaining at  the end of the school  year. The third                                                                    
category was  capital project funding  of $1.1  million. The                                                                    
district  currently had  $394,000 in  capital project  funds                                                                    
and  used  the  money  to do  its  summer  maintenance.  The                                                                    
funding was  used to prioritize  the district's  $30 million                                                                    
in  deferred maintenance.  He stated  the available  capital                                                                    
funding  was  not  as  much  as it  may  seem  and  was  not                                                                    
available to  the district. He  stated that his staff  did a                                                                    
great  job keeping  the district's  facilities running  with                                                                    
very limited resources.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   MacManus  moved   to   the   fourth  category:   other                                                                    
governmental funds. The category  showed about $1.1 million;                                                                    
however,  he  clarified   that  the  district's  accountants                                                                    
required the  inclusion of fuel inventory  accounts, student                                                                    
activities, student funding drives  for travel, as available                                                                    
funds. He  underscored that the  money was not  available to                                                                    
the district.  The fifth category  was COVID  relief funding                                                                    
shown  as  $1.1 million.  He  stated  the amount  shown  was                                                                    
deceiving  because  the district  did  not  have the  entire                                                                    
amount  available.  The  district   had  spent  all  of  its                                                                    
Elementary and  Secondary School Emergency Relief  I (ESSER)                                                                    
funds,  which were  supposed to  be spent  by September  30,                                                                    
2022. He  relayed that ESSER  II funding  currently included                                                                    
$14,000 in  the district's discretionary account  and $8,000                                                                    
in  school  testing  (which  had   been  used  to  do  COVID                                                                    
testing),  all of  which would  be gone  by the  end of  the                                                                    
fiscal year.  The district had  $238,000 remaining  in ESSER                                                                    
III  funds and  it would  have about  $651,000 for  the next                                                                    
year  to  continue  programs  that   had  been  started.  He                                                                    
detailed that  the district had  a mental  health counselor,                                                                    
some  CTE   [career  and   technical  education]   and  STEM                                                                    
[science,  technology,   engineering,  and   math]  teachers                                                                    
intended to reengage students,  dropout prevention funds for                                                                    
alternative   education,   and   the  district   had   hired                                                                    
additional  teachers for  its high  need schools  Tetlin and                                                                    
Mentasta.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:41:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus relayed the district  had used its year one and                                                                    
two  funding.  The  district   would  use  Coronavirus  Aid,                                                                    
Relief, and  Economic Security (CARES)  Act III  funding for                                                                    
operations in  the next  year, which  would prevent  if from                                                                    
going off a fiscal cliff.  He stated the funding was already                                                                    
planned for  and allocated. The  district had  spent funding                                                                    
on  mental  health  counseling,  reading  and  instructional                                                                    
support,   roving   subs,   testing,   personal   protective                                                                    
equipment  and  supplies,   non-toxic  sanitation,  daycare,                                                                    
staff  pay during  COVID, and  keeping its  schools open  as                                                                    
much  as  possible. The  district  was  trying to  keep  its                                                                    
programs  running with  staff currently  under contract  who                                                                    
were expecting jobs in the next year.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:42:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  asked for  a  quick  summary of  next                                                                    
year's budget if there was no funding increase.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus  replied that  the district  would have  to dig                                                                    
into its  budget reserve because  it had  already contracted                                                                    
out with  staff. He relayed it  would be about a  $1 million                                                                    
hit.  The  district  would  continue  on  with  its  current                                                                    
programming  and  would  start  shaving  off  staff  through                                                                    
natural attrition. He stated the  district would do its best                                                                    
to not  have to  fire anyone, but  it would  be devastating.                                                                    
There were currently  two budgets, one with  a $30 statutory                                                                    
increase  and  one with  a  $500  increase, which  was  very                                                                    
minimal. He stated that in  order for the district to remain                                                                    
solvent, it would need the amount proposed in HB 65.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  looked  at  the  bottom  of  slide  2                                                                    
showing health insurance cost at  34.8 percent for FY 23. He                                                                    
asked if it brought the total cost to over $2 million.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus agreed that the total was $2.2 million.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  if the  district had  around 50                                                                    
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  MacManus replied  that the  district  currently had  64                                                                    
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin referenced  Mr. MacManus's  testimony                                                                    
in  support of  timely, reliable,  and predictable  funding.                                                                    
She asked what that looked like for AGSD.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  MacManus  wanted  to  avoid  another  one-time  funding                                                                    
outside of the  Base Student Allocation (BSA).  He stated it                                                                    
was kicking the  can down the road and did  not help provide                                                                    
a  reliable source  of funding  for teachers  who wanted  to                                                                    
come  work in  the district.  He would  like to  be able  to                                                                    
assure staff their jobs were  secure in order to provide the                                                                    
best  education   possible  for  the  district's   kids.  He                                                                    
underscored the difficulty of  attracting quality staff when                                                                    
their job may be on the line.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:46:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin appreciated  Mr. MacManus  going into                                                                    
detail on  how responsible  the district  had been  with its                                                                    
existing   resources.   She   looked   at   the   district's                                                                    
administration   budget   at   4   percent,   which   showed                                                                    
significant discipline.  She asked  if the  district's staff                                                                    
knew  about the  difference between  inside and  outside the                                                                    
BSA. She asked  if it was common language  that would impact                                                                    
the district's retention and recruitment of teachers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  MacManus  replied  that  a  professional  staff  member                                                                    
recruited  from  in-state  would  know  the  difference.  He                                                                    
relayed that  when he  hired someone,  he was  upfront about                                                                    
the  financial  situation. He  wanted  to  make sure  people                                                                    
moving   from  outside   of  Alaska   were   clear  on   the                                                                    
circumstances.  He did  not know  whether people  would know                                                                    
the difference between inside and  outside the BSA, but they                                                                    
certainly  knew the  difference  between  grant funding  and                                                                    
consistent, steady, reliable  funding. He considered funding                                                                    
outside the BSA to be grant  funding because it was not part                                                                    
of the formula.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk  assumed the district still  had an NEA                                                                    
insurance  plan.  He  referenced  a  bill  that  would  pool                                                                    
insurance across  the state to  save money. He asked  if the                                                                    
district supported the idea.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus replied  that the district had  dropped its NEA                                                                    
health  insurance two  years earlier  because it  had become                                                                    
too expensive.  The district  put its  insurance out  to bid                                                                    
and had  gone with  the lowest provider,  which at  the time                                                                    
had saved  about $300,000 annually. The  rates had increased                                                                    
10  percent in  2022  and  7 percent  the  year before.  The                                                                    
district had been  shocked to see the  34.8 percent increase                                                                    
through  Premera Blue  Cross.  The district  was looking  at                                                                    
going out to  bid again, but it would be  difficult with the                                                                    
short turnaround.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:49:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Cronk   stated   that  the   governor   had                                                                    
introduced  a  bill  that would  offer  teacher  bonuses  in                                                                    
different quadrants  across the state. He  understood it was                                                                    
not a  fix, but he  believed it was something  people should                                                                    
be supporting,  particularly in the state's  rural areas. He                                                                    
asked Mr. MacManus for his thoughts.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  MacManus  returned  to   the  previous  question  about                                                                    
insurance  pooling.  The  district would  be  interested  in                                                                    
looking at  the option,  but it  was his  understanding they                                                                    
would  negotiate individually  with each  district and  that                                                                    
each  district would  have a  different bill.  He thought  a                                                                    
salary increase  seemed like  a good thing,  but he  felt it                                                                    
would be  better to have  the funds  in the general  fund in                                                                    
order to provide consistent wages  and salary increases that                                                                    
teachers  could rely  on.  He stated  that  a $15,000  bonus                                                                    
sounded really good,  but it would be better  if the funding                                                                    
could be consistent for the next many years.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  if  the [governor's  proposed]                                                                    
bonuses would  impact other  staff in  the building  such as                                                                    
teacher  assistants  or  maintenance   staff  who  were  not                                                                    
receiving an increase.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus  responded that his  district had a  grant that                                                                    
was  designed to  provide teacher  performance compensation.                                                                    
In the  fall of the  coming year,  the teachers would  get a                                                                    
bonus of  probably $5,000 for  two years. He  explained that                                                                    
the district did  not get funding for  its classified staff,                                                                    
but  the  district  had found  another  funding  source  and                                                                    
included  them.   He  believed  the  classified   staff  and                                                                    
paraprofessional  staff  were  critically important  to  the                                                                    
proper functioning of any good  school and needed to be paid                                                                    
accordingly.  He  thought  the  proposal  would  cause  some                                                                    
resentment from  those staff if  the district was  unable to                                                                    
find a way of matching the compensation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:52:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  found  the highest  cost  driver  in                                                                    
education   to  be   healthcare.  She   clarified  that   by                                                                    
percentage  it was  not the  highest cost,  but in  terms of                                                                    
overall  cost over  the years,  insurance appeared  to be  a                                                                    
major driver [in the increased education cost].                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  MacManus answered  that healthcare  was the  district's                                                                    
largest single cost other than  maintenance and wages. Other                                                                    
insurance   costs   including  workers'   compensation   and                                                                    
liability  had increased  significantly.  The actual  dollar                                                                    
figures  were smaller,  but the  percentage of  the increase                                                                    
was  larger. He  reiterated his  earlier testimony  that the                                                                    
health insurance  increase of over  34 percent was  a shock.                                                                    
He  added that  a $400  BSA  increase would  just cover  the                                                                    
increased insurance cost.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan looked  at a decrease in  fuel cost by                                                                    
4  percent over  the past  seven fiscal  years shown  in Mr.                                                                    
MacManus's  presentation. She  asked  how  the decrease  had                                                                    
been  achieved.  She  wondered  if  the  district  had  shut                                                                    
buildings or shifted from fuel to biomass.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus answered  that the price of fuel  had gone down                                                                    
for  a few  years  around 2021.  Additionally, the  district                                                                    
generally  saved about  60,000 gallons  of fuel  at the  Tok                                                                    
school  because  of  its  biomass  system  that  heated  and                                                                    
provided  electricity. He  highlighted that  electricity was                                                                    
$433,000 in  FY 21 and  jumped more  than $150,000 in  FY 22                                                                    
because  the  district  had  been unable  to  keep  up  with                                                                    
demand.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk asked when  the Northway biomass kicked                                                                    
in  and   how  much  fuel   the  district  would   save.  He                                                                    
highlighted  the importance  of biomass  and managing  state                                                                    
forests correctly.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus  responded that the  district had  selected and                                                                    
ordered equipment it would be  installing. The chip barn was                                                                    
on the way and the district  hoped it would be functional by                                                                    
the  coming  fall  and  would  offset  approximately  30,000                                                                    
gallons of  fuel per year.  The project would also  heat the                                                                    
outbuildings  around the  school.  The district  was in  the                                                                    
process of  negotiating a similar  project in Mentasta  in a                                                                    
facility  that  was about  half  the  size of  Northway.  He                                                                    
agreed  that  the use  of  biomass  and shift  to  available                                                                    
resources had been important.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk  asked how much  had been saved  at the                                                                    
Tok school alone since biomass had been implemented.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. MacManus answered, "At least 500,000 gallons."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:58:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KASIE  LUKE,  SUPERINTENDENT,   LAKE  AND  PENINSULA  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT  (LPSD)  (via   teleconference),  spoke  in  strong                                                                    
support of the bill.  She provided a PowerPoint presentation                                                                    
titled  "HB 65  LPSD House  Finance," dated  April 28,  2023                                                                    
(copy on file). She read from prepared remarks:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Stable, predictable funding  through an increase within                                                                    
     the  Base Student  Allocation  (BSA)  was necessary  to                                                                    
     ensure  districts can  cover inflationary  increases in                                                                    
     operating costs  that are outside of  our control. Lake                                                                    
     and Peninsula School District has  tapped into our fund                                                                    
     balance  to  maintain  programs and  what  we  feel  is                                                                    
     essential to  educating and providing  opportunities to                                                                    
     our students in rural Alaska  over the past four years.                                                                    
     We  will  be  experiencing   a  zero  fund  balance  to                                                                    
     negative fund  balance at the  end of this  fiscal year                                                                    
     as of June 30, 2023.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     In the next  few slides, I would like  to highlight for                                                                    
     you two  tangible examples of increasing  costs in food                                                                    
     service and  property and liability insurance  that are                                                                    
     out of our control, yet  are necessary to the wellbeing                                                                    
     of our students and the  functioning of our schools. If                                                                    
     you move  to slide 2,  you'll see  a table on  the cost                                                                    
     overview  of LPSD's  food service  program. Although  I                                                                    
     know this  table offers  a cost  overview, to  bring to                                                                    
     life  this   table  I  would   ask  that   you  imagine                                                                    
     yourselves  holding  a number  ten  can  of chili  with                                                                    
     beans. In 2018, this can  of chili with beans cost Lake                                                                    
     and Peninsula  School District  $74.72 to  purchase and                                                                    
     ship to our community. In  2022, this same can of beans                                                                    
     cost  us $107.06.  LPSD is  identified  as a  community                                                                    
     eligibility  district,  which   means  our  low  income                                                                    
     status provides  free meals to all  students. The USDA,                                                                    
     through the State  of Alaska, only funds  40 percent of                                                                    
     the cost  of food service.  In order to operate  a cold                                                                    
     breakfast  and hot  lunch program,  60 percent  of that                                                                    
     cost  is district  funded.  We anticipate  transferring                                                                    
     $425,593 from  our general funds  to cover the  cost of                                                                    
     the food  service program this  fiscal year. In  FY 24,                                                                    
     we  have added  food service  to the  consideration for                                                                    
     our  school board  to suspend  our program  due to  our                                                                    
     lack of fund balance.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     If  you  move  to  slide  3  you'll  see  a  bar  chart                                                                    
     highlighting  LPSD's  insurance premiums  projected  to                                                                    
     merely triple  by FY 24.  These increases in  costs are                                                                    
     driven  by nationwide  property  and liability  losses.                                                                    
     Again, a  significant increase in  cost that  we cannot                                                                    
     control.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:01:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Luke  turned to  slide  4  titled "COVID  funding"  and                                                                    
continued to read from prepared remarks:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     I just  wanted to  offer clarity  to the  House Finance                                                                    
     Committee of LPSD's  FY 23 use of  funds being budgeted                                                                    
     at  $679,713, which  will  be expended  by  FY 24.  The                                                                    
     final slide in  my presentation is the  FY 24 landscape                                                                    
     for Lake  and Peninsula School District.  We anticipate                                                                    
     a  deficit of  $609,429  when budgeting  a zero  dollar                                                                    
     increase to the BSA.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  appreciated   the  detailed  analysis.  He                                                                    
stated that the case had been  made to him that the district                                                                    
among   other  school   districts   was   in  dire   straits                                                                    
financially  and that  a  BSA increase  or  outside the  BSA                                                                    
increase was  a necessity  to continue  into the  future. He                                                                    
referenced an  earlier discussion in front  of the committee                                                                    
about the governor's  proposal to provide a  pay increase to                                                                    
teachers.  He  wanted to  get  Ms.  Luke's thoughts  on  the                                                                    
issue. He remarked  that the pay increase  was for certified                                                                    
teachers and left out other  categories of support staff. He                                                                    
pointed out  that the  bill was also  very expensive  at $57                                                                    
million per year, which was on  par with the $225 funded for                                                                    
the BSA the past year at  a total of $57 million outside the                                                                    
BSA  formula.   He  elaborated  that  the   governor's  bill                                                                    
included three  tiers and he  believed LPSD was in  tier III                                                                    
where teachers would receive $15,000.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon asked  how much the increase would  be for a                                                                    
young couple to receive $30,000  per year for three years at                                                                    
a  total  of  $90,000.  He provided  a  scenario  where  the                                                                    
legislature did not  fund the salary increase  in year four.                                                                    
He wondered what would prevent  the couple from taking their                                                                    
defined contribution  plan and  returning to  another state.                                                                    
The scenario  illustrated his concern with  the proposal. He                                                                    
emphasized that  the proposal cost $57  million, which would                                                                    
have to  be funded  annually by  the legislature.  He stated                                                                    
the  amount may  increase in  the coming  year if  there was                                                                    
inflationary  indexing attached.  He asked  if the  proposal                                                                    
was an  incentive to  teachers and  a disincentive  to staff                                                                    
who did not qualify.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:05:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Luke answered  that based on conversations  she had with                                                                    
Co-Chair Edgmon and in other  considerations of rural school                                                                    
districts, LPSD  viewed the  one-time $15,000  as beneficial                                                                    
for  teachers in  addition to  an increase  inside the  BSA;                                                                    
however, there would be a  ripple effect on other employees.                                                                    
She explained  that while the governor's  proposal supported                                                                    
teachers, it only  supported them for a  certain time period                                                                    
and isolated the  support to teachers only  who could choose                                                                    
to take  the money  and leave Alaska.  The proposal  did not                                                                    
support   the  district's   classified  hires,   which  were                                                                    
typically  local  hires  and the  district  put  significant                                                                    
emphasis  on  attracting  and retaining.  She  did  not  see                                                                    
teachers  sticking with  the district  after  the funds  had                                                                    
been utilized.  She saw teachers moving  somewhere where the                                                                    
cost of living was much less expensive.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  surmised  that  if  the  program  remained                                                                    
permanent it would be an  incentive. He understood there was                                                                    
a  disincentive to  other educators  [who would  not qualify                                                                    
for  the  proposed  salary  increase].  He  referenced  food                                                                    
service  staff,  assistants,  and administrative  staff  who                                                                    
would not qualify.  He highlighted that the  BSA covered the                                                                    
entire   field  and   not  merely   one  component   of  the                                                                    
educational system. He asked for  Ms. Luke's thoughts on the                                                                    
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Luke saw  the increase in the BSA  being most meaningful                                                                    
and stable  because of  its predictability.  She highlighted                                                                    
fuel,  property,  electricity,  and health  insurance  costs                                                                    
that  did  not  pertain  only to  certified  educators.  She                                                                    
stated that  an increase  in BSA funding  would be  the most                                                                    
beneficial  for the  district to  anticipate its  ability to                                                                    
cover expenses.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:09:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  referenced Ms. Luke's  testimony that                                                                    
$609,429 would need to be  moved from LPSD's budget if there                                                                    
was no  increase to the  BSA. She noted the  slide indicated                                                                    
beyond $30. She  clarified that she did not  believe the $30                                                                    
the  legislature added  to  the BSA  the  previous year  was                                                                    
enough  to make  a  difference. She  asked  if the  $609,429                                                                    
included the $30 currently in  the BSA from the Alaska Reads                                                                    
Act in 2022.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Luke confirmed it included the $30.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  referenced the  concept of  bonus pay                                                                    
to teachers.  She thought $15,000  per year should  be going                                                                    
to  their retirement  accounts, not  their wages.  She asked                                                                    
how  much  the average  teacher  was  contributing to  their                                                                    
retirement plan on an annual basis.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Luke replied she would have to follow up.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan replied  that  she did  not want  Ms.                                                                    
Luke to have to do the  homework. She thought it was a great                                                                    
bonus  to talk  about, but  she  felt it  was separate  from                                                                    
funding  school districts  and was  part  of a  compensation                                                                    
plan for  teachers equivalent  to what  the state  should be                                                                    
talking  about for  an  annual  retirement contribution  for                                                                    
public education  employees. She  stated that a  teacher had                                                                    
the  opportunity to  earn far  more wages  than the  kitchen                                                                    
staff, yet  they both would  have the  same kind of  cost of                                                                    
living  expenses  and  in  retirement.  She  considered  the                                                                    
[governor's]  bonus  proposal  was  an  incentive  to  stay;                                                                    
however, she thought  it would be an incentive  to leave the                                                                    
state once  the bonuses ended.  She did not think  it helped                                                                    
the districts in the long term.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked how  many unfilled positions LPSD                                                                    
had for certified staff and paraprofessionals.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Luke answered  that LPSD had started  recruiting for its                                                                    
certified  positions  early  in  the  spring  semester.  The                                                                    
district had started with 17  openings, which reflected a 40                                                                    
percent turnover. The district  was still looking to recruit                                                                    
12 of  the positions. She did  not have the details  on hand                                                                    
related to  classified hires. She relayed  that the district                                                                    
had  pretty consistent  classified  staffing throughout  the                                                                    
year  and  from  year  to  year,  but  it  was  a  bit  more                                                                    
unpredictable.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked for a  quick summary of the kinds                                                                    
of certified staff positions that  were not being filled and                                                                    
services  that were  not being  delivered to  students as  a                                                                    
result.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Luke replied that LPSD  was currently fully staffed with                                                                    
certified positions  for the remainder of  the current year,                                                                    
but it was not fully  staffed with its classified hires. She                                                                    
relayed that  if the district  could not fill  the positions                                                                    
turning  over for  the next  school year,  it would  cross a                                                                    
multitude  of classrooms.  She explained  that the  district                                                                    
had  mostly generalist  classrooms. She  elaborated that  it                                                                    
meant  elementary teachers  were  teaching  all subjects  at                                                                    
many of the district's schools. The district was currently                                                                      
looking for  a principal that would  serve multiple schools.                                                                    
She  stated   that  there   was  an   impact  to   K-12  and                                                                    
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:15:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   prefaced    his   question   by                                                                    
clarifying  he   was  not  suggesting  there   was  anything                                                                    
particularly wrong with  the idea. He asked  if the district                                                                    
hired Filipino nationals due to a lack of other candidates.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Luke  responded  that  LPSD  had  not  experienced  the                                                                    
current rate  of turnover during  her tenure of 12  years in                                                                    
various roles.  The district had  not gone down the  road of                                                                    
fostering the connection with Filipino  hires or other hires                                                                    
outside of  Alaska or  the United  States. The  district had                                                                    
worked to  maintain connection with its  university partners                                                                    
in Alaska  and the Lower  48 to  grow its own  teachers. She                                                                    
noted the idea was not off the table.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked for verification  that other                                                                    
districts  in western  Alaska did  [hire Filipino  nationals                                                                    
due to a lack of other candidates].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Luke  responded  that  she   could  not  speak  to  the                                                                    
districts  in  southwest  Alaska.   She  noted  that  LPSD's                                                                    
partnership school  district Bristol Bay  had not had  to go                                                                    
that route.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:17:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster recognized Senator Loki Tobin in the room.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ANDY DEGRAW, CHIEF OPERATIONS  OFFICER, FAIRBANKS NORTH STAR                                                                    
BOROUGH SCHOOL DISTRICT,  provided a PowerPoint presentation                                                                    
titled "Fairbanks North Star  Borough School District" (copy                                                                    
on  file).  He  acknowledged the  challenging  circumstances                                                                    
facing the state. He thanked  the members for their work. He                                                                    
strongly supported  the bill and a  permanent, reliable, and                                                                    
predictable  increase  to  the  BSA.  He  relayed  that  his                                                                    
presentation  was  in  response  to the  DEED  fund  balance                                                                    
report issued  a couple of  weeks earlier.  Additionally, he                                                                    
would  provide  a  brief snapshot  of  Fairbanks'  financial                                                                    
situation and challenges.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  began on slide  2 and addressed the  question of                                                                    
what funds were available to  school districts for the FY 24                                                                    
operating budget.  He thought  the implication  had possibly                                                                    
been  put  out  there  that districts  were  sitting  on  $1                                                                    
billion  and  why  did  they need  any  kind  of  additional                                                                    
funding. He  stated that  the nature of  the remarks  of the                                                                    
districts would be to dispel  the misconception. He reported                                                                    
that Fairbanks'  unreserved operating  fund was at  zero. He                                                                    
could  not overstate  the precarious  situation  it put  the                                                                    
district in.  He elaborated that  state statute  allowed the                                                                    
district  approximately  $19   million  in  unreserved  fund                                                                    
balance,  which  would  equate   to  45  days  of  operating                                                                    
expenses. He noted  it was not relatively speaking  a lot of                                                                    
money for a district with a $240 million budget.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  explained that districts  had to plan  for staff                                                                    
levels one  year in advance  of when students  were counted.                                                                    
Districts put staff on contract.  He reported that if 200 or                                                                    
300 fewer  students came into  the district  than projected,                                                                    
the  district's fund  balance had  to  carry the  additional                                                                    
staff brought in  to teach the students who did  not show up                                                                    
and that the district did  not end up receiving revenue for.                                                                    
There was  a practical  need for  an operating  fund balance                                                                    
for school districts. There was  $2.3 million in the capital                                                                    
projects  and the  funds were  committed. He  expounded that                                                                    
the  district had  agreements with  the borough  to do  roof                                                                    
projects at two  different schools. He relayed  that one was                                                                    
complete and  the other was  ongoing. The  funds technically                                                                    
could be accessed at some point  down the road, but it would                                                                    
involve a process  with the borough to  unrestrict the funds                                                                    
and bring them back.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:21:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  moved to  slide 3  and stated  that of  the $4.7                                                                    
million  in DEED's  report, $1  million  were restricted  to                                                                    
pupil transportation.  He reported that the  school district                                                                    
was running a structural  deficit in its transportation fund                                                                    
of  approximately   $3.5  million   and  the   district  was                                                                    
budgeting  a  $3 million  deficit  in  the coming  year.  He                                                                    
underscored  that   transportation  funding  had   not  been                                                                    
increased  in eight  years. The  district could  address the                                                                    
issue in one  of two ways. First, the  district could budget                                                                    
for   the   need  in   its   general   fund  and   subsidize                                                                    
transportation out of its classroom  funds. Second, it could                                                                    
use its unrestricted fund balance  to cover the deficit. The                                                                    
district  was   planning  to  use  the   second  option.  He                                                                    
elaborated that technically  the funds could be  used but it                                                                    
meant the  need to budget  an additional $3  million expense                                                                    
to  the district's  general  fund. He  stated  that the  $17                                                                    
million deficit  would immediately increase to  $20 million.                                                                    
He  stated that  if no  action  was taken  the fund  balance                                                                    
would be exhausted in about 1.5 years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw  addressed  other   governmental  funds  of  $13                                                                    
million on slide  4. The district had $1.5  million in money                                                                    
fundraised by  students and  organizations in  the district.                                                                    
The  funds  were  technically  available,  but  they  had  a                                                                    
"newspaper  headline  test."   He  provided  a  hypothetical                                                                    
headline  example:  "Bakesale  Funds Used  to  Pay  Employee                                                                    
Benefits." He  stated he would  be run  out of town  if that                                                                    
occurred;  therefore,  for  all intents  and  purposes,  the                                                                    
funding was unavailable. He highlighted  FY 23 impact aid of                                                                    
$7.8 million  as the largest  number on the slide.  He noted                                                                    
that the "as of"  date on the DEED report was  the end of FY                                                                    
22. The  funds had been budgeted  to FY 23 and  the district                                                                    
was  in  the  process  of  expending  them.  The  district's                                                                    
nutrition services  fund of $2.4  million and  inventory and                                                                    
home school allotments of $1.3 million were restricted.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:24:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw spoke  about  COVID relief  grants  on slide  5.                                                                    
There was  a $16.1  million balance remaining  for Fairbanks                                                                    
in  December 2022.  He explained  that  districts spent  the                                                                    
money in advance and requested  reimbursement from the state                                                                    
in arrears.  He relayed that  when the DEED report  had been                                                                    
compiled,  Fairbanks  had not  yet  submitted  its March  31                                                                    
request.  He  explained that  when  the  state grant  system                                                                    
updated it was already  outdated because districts submitted                                                                    
quarterly  and Fairbanks  was using  about  $1.5 million  in                                                                    
COVID  funds  per  month.  He pointed  to  $2.1  million  in                                                                    
unknown funds  on slide  5 and  relayed it  included special                                                                    
education, homeless,  and literacy  grant funds,  which were                                                                    
restricted  to specific  activities. The  district estimated                                                                    
it would  have $4.9 million available  for FY 23 at  the end                                                                    
of FY 24 to keep class  sizes from increasing more than they                                                                    
already had.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:25:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw  advanced to  slide  6  and discussed  that  the                                                                    
district's  starting  deficit  in   FY  24  would  be  $17.5                                                                    
million.  He  underscored  that districts  were  not  merely                                                                    
sitting  there  asking  for more  money.  He  stressed  that                                                                    
districts  were doing  everything possible  and were  at the                                                                    
end of the  line. He detailed that the  Fairbanks North Star                                                                    
Borough  School District  had  reduced  180 positions  since                                                                    
2020 (slightly over 10 percent  of its workforce), which had                                                                    
impacted instruction. Additionally,  the district had closed                                                                    
three schools. He  stated it had been the right  thing to do                                                                    
as  enrollment  had  been  down,  but it  had  been  a  very                                                                    
political  and gut  wrenching process.  The district's  high                                                                    
school  and  middle school  class  sizes  were currently  32                                                                    
students in  the FY  24 budget.  The current  classroom size                                                                    
was 30 students and the  district needed additional funds to                                                                    
maintain that  number in  FY 24. He  noted that  a classroom                                                                    
target size of  30 meant there were some  classrooms with up                                                                    
to  34  students.  The issue  was  spreading  to  elementary                                                                    
schools  as  well  and  the district  was  hoping  to  avoid                                                                    
increasing Kindergarten class sizes above 25 students.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw reported  that one  year earlier  the district's                                                                    
special  education  count  was  2,354  students,  while  the                                                                    
number  had increased  to  2,610 in  the  current year.  The                                                                    
district  was holding  special education  harmless, but  the                                                                    
workload  was  increasing  dramatically. He  emphasized  the                                                                    
pressure the  situation put on  teachers and  support staff.                                                                    
The district  desperately needed  a lifeline.  He reiterated                                                                    
his strong support for the  bill and a permanent increase to                                                                    
the  BSA.  He relayed  that  the  district would  absolutely                                                                    
appreciate  a one-time  increase, but  the one-time  funding                                                                    
meant the  district's $17 million deficit  would increase to                                                                    
$20 million in  the next year. The district would  be out of                                                                    
COVID funds, and  it had cut its support  departments to the                                                                    
bone before  raising class size,  but ultimately  that would                                                                    
be necessary.  He thanked the committee  for the opportunity                                                                    
to testify.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  thanked Mr.  DeGraw for  flying in  to meet                                                                    
with the committee. He  recognized Representative Andi Story                                                                    
in the audience.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:29:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  about federal  impact aid,  why                                                                    
the borough  received the  money, and if  it could  keep the                                                                    
money all of the money directed to the school district.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw explained  that the  borough  had a  significant                                                                    
number  of  military  connected students  and  had  received                                                                    
several  related awards  in  the last  couple  of years.  He                                                                    
detailed that  the borough was  not able to  assess property                                                                    
taxes on  that property; therefore, impact  aid was provided                                                                    
in lieu of those taxes.  The district integrated the funding                                                                    
into its operating  budget. He noted there  was a relatively                                                                    
small number  of districts  in the  state that  received the                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  referenced the  $680 BSA  increase. He                                                                    
asked what it looked like the  following year if there was a                                                                    
one-time  increase. He  asked if  the  Fairbanks North  Star                                                                    
Borough School  District would still  be unable to  fill its                                                                    
funding gap.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw  answered that  [an  increase  of] $680  allowed                                                                    
Fairbanks to  hold the  line and  restore cuts  the district                                                                    
was  making currently  in its  FY  24 budget.  He stated  it                                                                    
would not  necessarily allow the  district to  invest beyond                                                                    
that. He highlighted  that 180 positions had  been cut since                                                                    
2020 and the  $680 would not allow the district  to start to                                                                    
chip  away  at  positions  aside from  immediate  cuts.  The                                                                    
district was in  the process of determining  its approach to                                                                    
the  Alaska Reads  Act. He  stated the  district desperately                                                                    
wanted to be  a part of the dialogue on  how it saw improved                                                                    
outcomes.   He  relayed   there   were   questions  on   how                                                                    
effectively  the  district  could implement  the  Reads  Act                                                                    
because  the $680  did not  leave the  district with  excess                                                                    
funding to invest.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:32:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon asked  about school  reporting to  DEED. He                                                                    
shared it  had been presented  to him that the  state needed                                                                    
to do a better job  of interactions between school districts                                                                    
and  DEED in  terms of  fund reserve  balances. He  presumed                                                                    
Fairbanks North  Star Borough  School District  went through                                                                    
an annual audit. He asked if  there was a way to improve the                                                                    
reporting  mechanism. He  suggested it  could perhaps  occur                                                                    
twice per year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  believed there was  a better way. He  valued the                                                                    
district's  relationship with  DEED,  but the  communication                                                                    
and timeliness of reporting could  be improved. He stated it                                                                    
was  a  timing  issue  and numbers  could  be  accurate  and                                                                    
inaccurate at  the same  time. For example,  he could  put a                                                                    
number out in his community  and people could use the number                                                                    
to argue both sides of a  topic with no context. He believed                                                                    
the short answer was that  data reporting could be improved.                                                                    
He  believed one  of the  most important  factors was  good,                                                                    
accurate, and reliable information.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon referenced  the  [governor's proposed]  pay                                                                    
bonuses legislation  for teachers. He stated  that Fairbanks                                                                    
was in tier  I [the legislation had  three specified tiers],                                                                    
which  would  mean  a  salary   bonus  of  $5,000  for  each                                                                    
certified  teacher. He  asked Mr.  DeGraw to  couch it  in a                                                                    
scenario  where  the  district  did not  get  the  $680  BSA                                                                    
increase it was  seeking and the number ended  up being much                                                                    
lower.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw stated  his understanding  of  the question.  He                                                                    
stated there  was a nationwide  challenge of  recruiting and                                                                    
retaining teachers. He did not  believe there was one silver                                                                    
bullet to  solve the problems facing  districts. He remarked                                                                    
that  the challenges  facing Fairbanks  were very  different                                                                    
than those facing rural districts.  He stated that Fairbanks                                                                    
did  not face  the  same level  of  challenges facing  rural                                                                    
districts.   He  liked   the  tracking   component  in   the                                                                    
[governor's  salary bonus]  proposal to  see what  impact it                                                                    
had. He recognized that the  cost was significant. He stated                                                                    
the bonus potential going teachers  going to rural districts                                                                    
was  significant. He  believed the  nature of  the workforce                                                                    
was changing.  He did not  believe people could  be expected                                                                    
to  remain in  one  place for  25 to  30  years anymore.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  demographics were changing and  people were                                                                    
more mobile.  He suggested perhaps it  became a conversation                                                                    
about how  to increase the  average time a  teacher remained                                                                    
in a  location. He  thought it  needed to  be a  "Swiss Army                                                                    
Knife"  approach  of  pay increases,  benefits,  and  health                                                                    
insurance. He thought  there was some merit  in the proposal                                                                    
especially to  rural districts. He  noted that he  had spent                                                                    
time  in  a  small   school  district  that  struggled  with                                                                    
challenges facing many rural districts in Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  continued to answer Co-Chair  Edgmon's question.                                                                    
He  relayed the  district would  be  in big  trouble if  the                                                                    
[BSA]  increase  was  $300.   The  district  would  need  to                                                                    
maintain  cuts  below what  it  had  experienced up  to  the                                                                    
current point  into FY 24. He  reported that if it  was one-                                                                    
time funding  it would  generate significant  challenges for                                                                    
Fairbanks.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:37:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon clarified that he  had presented the teacher                                                                    
pay bonuses  and the smaller  BSA scenario  together because                                                                    
some people  in the political  world believed both  could be                                                                    
done.  He explained  that one  would  have to  be a  smaller                                                                    
number in lieu of the other.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  replied that  the district  would by  far prefer                                                                    
the larger  BSA increase  rather than  a combination  of the                                                                    
teacher bonus and a smaller increase.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin referenced  Mr. DeGraw's  comments on                                                                    
class  size. She  appreciated the  district's  hard work  to                                                                    
maintain classes  and extend education  to every  child. She                                                                    
referenced a  study dated June  10, 2022 reporting  that New                                                                    
York, Minnesota,  North Carolina,  Texas, and  Wisconsin had                                                                    
spent  the extra  funds necessary  to maintain  class sizes.                                                                    
The study found  that test scores in smaller  classes by far                                                                    
surpassed those  with larger class  sizes. She  reviewed the                                                                    
benefits  of   smaller  class  sizes.  She   referenced  Mr.                                                                    
DeGraw's  testimony that  the district  was working  to keep                                                                    
Kindergarten  classes   at  25  students.  She   stated  the                                                                    
National  Institute for  Early Learning  and the  Center for                                                                    
Public Education  had both said  the size needed to  be less                                                                    
than 20 students. She thought  it was important to recognize                                                                    
that  BSA dollars  translated to  class size.  She found  it                                                                    
concerning the  district was looking at  growing class sizes                                                                    
by two  students in high  school. She asked for  the history                                                                    
of the  decision. She asked  how funding inside  and outside                                                                    
the BSA would impact class size.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:41:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw  stated that  the  vast  majority of  a  funding                                                                    
increase  would go  directly to  the classroom.  He reported                                                                    
that  class size  was  becoming an  issue  in Fairbanks.  He                                                                    
explained the  main reason the  district's fund  balance was                                                                    
zero was  that the  Board of  Education locally  indicated a                                                                    
desire  to maintain  those lower  and as  long as  possible.                                                                    
Five years ago,  the kindergarten class size had  been 21 to                                                                    
22 and  it was  now up to  25 with the  threat of  having to                                                                    
increase to 27.  The district had been able to  find cuts in                                                                    
other places to  keep the number at 25 for  the coming year.                                                                    
Reductions   made  included   teacher   aids  and   teaching                                                                    
assistants. The vast majority of  the $680 increase would go                                                                    
into  the   classroom.  The  investment  would   enable  the                                                                    
district  to lower  class sizes  back to  historical levels.                                                                    
Five  years  back the  class  size  had  been around  22  in                                                                    
elementary  school and  25 or  26 at  the middle  school and                                                                    
high school level. Those class sizes  had creeped up by 2 to                                                                    
4 over the last two to  three years. He reported it had been                                                                    
seven years  since the  last BSA increase  and they  were at                                                                    
the end of the line.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin did not  know where the district stood                                                                    
with  teacher  and  other   vacancies.  She  referenced  the                                                                    
[governor's] teacher  bonus proposal and calculated  that if                                                                    
the state spent $57 million  for four years instead of three                                                                    
and  paid  full  college  tuition at  UAF  for  high  school                                                                    
students out of the community  to become teachers, the state                                                                    
would  grow more  than 2,500  teachers for  the state  after                                                                    
four years. She stated there  were many decisions to be made                                                                    
and she  wanted to  ensure teachers were  receiving adequate                                                                    
salaries in  Alaska. She wondered  what the  community would                                                                    
think and how the district was doing with vacancies.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw  replied  that  the   bonus  program  would  not                                                                    
necessarily  benefit  Fairbanks  as   much  because  it  was                                                                    
looking at hiring  more teachers. He stated  the two primary                                                                    
levers  were  the cost  of  salaries  and benefits  and  the                                                                    
numbers.  Fairbanks  needed  more bodies  in  classrooms  as                                                                    
class sizes were lowered.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked if  the district would  be able                                                                    
retain more educators if they were home grown.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw agreed emphatically.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  noted there  was a  Fairbanks Board                                                                    
of  Education  resolution  in  members'  bill  packets.  The                                                                    
resolution explained that the district  had done a great job                                                                    
reducing  costs  and it  discussed  the  closure of  [three]                                                                    
schools. She looked  at the district's request  for $270 per                                                                    
student to the BSA per  student over two years and inflation                                                                    
proofing. She  wondered why  the district  had gone  up from                                                                    
$270  to  $680.  She  clarified that  it  was  a  resolution                                                                    
possibly from the end of the previous year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw responded  that he could look into  the issue. He                                                                    
remarked that  if the  resolution was from  the end  of 2022                                                                    
the information would be outdated.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe   asked  what  happened   from  the                                                                    
previous  year to  the  current year  that  resulted in  the                                                                    
district's need for the $680  [increase in the BSA]. She was                                                                    
hearing  from Mr.  DeGraw that  the increase  was needed  to                                                                    
cover the  district's deficit. She wondered  if the original                                                                    
amount would have impacted the  deficit a little bit and the                                                                    
higher amount would  cover it. She was  trying to understand                                                                    
the difference in the requests.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  explained that Fairbanks had  received about $33                                                                    
million in COVID funding and  the district had relied on the                                                                    
funds  to provide  a soft  landing. He  elaborated that  the                                                                    
district had  been budgeting $10  million to $12  million in                                                                    
COVID funds  for class  size retention.  Additionally, there                                                                    
had been  huge COVID costs  for districts. He  detailed that                                                                    
people's jobs  had changed  and additional  resources needed                                                                    
to  be   dedicated  to  address   the  pandemic.   The  main                                                                    
difference was  that the district  was hitting the  cliff of                                                                    
available COVID funds.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe referenced  Mr. DeGraw's  testimony                                                                    
on positions and closing schools.  She asked if the measures                                                                    
were  driven  by  lower  student counts  and  an  effort  to                                                                    
consolidate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  agreed it  was fair  to say  that a  portion was                                                                    
attributed to  school closure and lower  enrollment. Some of                                                                    
the staff was  dispersed to other schools, but  there was an                                                                    
overall  reduction in  staff. The  district  had lost  2,000                                                                    
students at the  onset of the pandemic and  it had recovered                                                                    
75 to 80 percent.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:48:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan stated that  in the past the Fairbanks                                                                    
School District's  health insurance  was fairly  unique. She                                                                    
elaborated that the  district had not been part  of a health                                                                    
insurance  trust, educators  had  been paid  through a  city                                                                    
joint plan  with zero  copay. She  asked for  the district's                                                                    
current healthcare cost per employee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  replied that the district  was self-insured, and                                                                    
the cost was  in the range of a couple  thousand dollars per                                                                    
month per employee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  stated there  was a bill  that talked                                                                    
about  consolidating  districts  into the  state  plan.  She                                                                    
believed it  would be  an increase in  the monthly  cost for                                                                    
Fairbanks.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  responded that  the district  had looked  at the                                                                    
idea a  couple of times  in the past 10  to 15 years  and it                                                                    
had not  been a  beneficial move for  Fairbanks. He  did not                                                                    
suspect it would be any different at present.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson looked  at the resolution mentioned                                                                    
by  Representative Coulombe.  He recalled  that a  couple of                                                                    
years ago Representative  Andi Story had a  bill to increase                                                                    
the  BSA by  $74 million  for two  years. He  had asked  the                                                                    
Legislative Finance  Division what the  inflation adjustment                                                                    
was from 2017 and it  had been somewhere in the neighborhood                                                                    
of $150  million. He had subsequently  offered the amendment                                                                    
in committee.  He referenced that  Mr. DeGraw had  cited the                                                                    
depletion  of COVID  funding in  response to  Representative                                                                    
Coulombe's  earlier question.  He highlighted  that much  of                                                                    
the change  was due to  inflation adjustment in the  past 18                                                                    
months. He asked  if it was the larger factor.  He noted the                                                                    
committee had heard about the  cost increase in a very large                                                                    
can of chili from another district earlier in the meeting.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw replied  that the  estimated  cost increases  in                                                                    
Fairbanks were not as extreme  as those in villages but were                                                                    
roughly 13  to 14  percent since the  last BSA  increase. He                                                                    
stated  that  going into  2024,  the  number would  pass  15                                                                    
percent.  He  agreed  there  was  huge  pressure  there.  He                                                                    
referenced the  resolution and relayed that  the local board                                                                    
of education  put out  a legislative  priority sheet  at the                                                                    
beginning of  the school year  and included a request  for a                                                                    
BSA increase of $800.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:51:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk clarified  that  the teacher  shortage                                                                    
was occurring  nationwide and was  not unique to  Alaska. He                                                                    
noted that Fairbanks  did not have that issue.  He asked for                                                                    
details on why.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeGraw  agreed  it  was   a  nationwide  and  statewide                                                                    
challenge. The district did not  have the same challenges as                                                                    
the rural districts as Fairbanks  was on the road system and                                                                    
was  a  larger  municipality.   He  confirmed  that  regular                                                                    
teaching  positions were  not  as much  of  a challenge  for                                                                    
Fairbanks; however, the district did  see a challenge in the                                                                    
special  education  area.  He  reported  that  about  three-                                                                    
quarters  of the  district's vacancies  were in  the special                                                                    
education department.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk stated that  if salaries were higher it                                                                    
was an incentive for people to  want to live in those areas.                                                                    
He stressed that if the  governor's proposal were adopted, a                                                                    
teacher couple  would make an  additional $30,000 in  one of                                                                    
the schools in  his district. He would  probably never leave                                                                    
if  he was  in  the situation.  He  believed Fairbanks  paid                                                                    
fairly well and  it was one of the reasons  its turnover was                                                                    
low.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw believed the  challenge of addressing recruitment                                                                    
and retention was  a multi-tooled approach. The  first was a                                                                    
good  work  environment,  which included  class  sizes.  The                                                                    
district needed  to hire  more teachers  in order  to reduce                                                                    
class sizes  to improve  the work environment  for teachers.                                                                    
Teachers were "pulling  their hair out" with  class sizes of                                                                    
33 students.  Pay was  another approach.  He stated  that if                                                                    
pay was number two or three  on a survey list, he absolutely                                                                    
agreed it  would make a  difference. Retirement  was another                                                                    
component.  He underscored  that  tackling the  issue was  a                                                                    
multipronged approach.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  recognized Representative Maxine  Dibert in                                                                    
the room.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeGraw  thanked the committee members  for their service                                                                    
and dedication to the state.  He remarked there were no easy                                                                    
answers  to many  challenging decisions.  He reiterated  his                                                                    
strong support for a permanent increase to the BSA.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:56:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  RANDY  TRANI,  SUPERINTENDENT,  MAT-SU  BOROUGH  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT  (via  teleconference),  spoke   in  favor  of  the                                                                    
legislation and  timely, reliable, and  predictable funding.                                                                    
He shared  that the  Mat-Su Borough School  District (MSBSD)                                                                    
had its highest  student enrollment in the  current year. He                                                                    
reported  that   the  district  had  the   most  career  and                                                                    
technical education  courses per  student and  most advanced                                                                    
placement student  courses ever. Additionally,  the district                                                                    
had  recently  posted its  best  graduation  rate ever.  The                                                                    
district wanted  to continue to  build on its  successes. He                                                                    
referred  to a  handout  titled "DEED  School District  Fund                                                                    
Balances" (copy on  file). He pointed to the top  of slide 1                                                                    
showing  the districts  unrestricted unreserved  ending fund                                                                    
balance of  $14.911 million and  a total by  district number                                                                    
of  $85,419,000. He  recognized  that if  a person  casually                                                                    
looked at  the figures, they  would wonder why  the district                                                                    
needed  any more  money. He  would explain  in the  upcoming                                                                    
slides how the  funding was or was not  available for future                                                                    
spending.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Trani  explained  that the  $19.9  million  represented                                                                    
6.126 percent  of the district's expenses.  He detailed that                                                                    
$3.5 million  of the total  was reserved for  the district's                                                                    
charter schools. He noted that  the district had some of the                                                                    
highest achieving  and oldest charter schools  in the state.                                                                    
He relayed that  the local school board  policy required the                                                                    
district to  maintain a  5 percent  fund balance.  He stated                                                                    
that  including  the  money the  charter  schools  had  been                                                                    
saving  to build  permanent facilities  for themselves,  the                                                                    
district had a  6.126 percent balance. He  reported that the                                                                    
district  had about  $11.5 million  available  for use.  The                                                                    
other funds had already been spent or were unspendable.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:00:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Trani turned  to slide 2 showing zero  dollars under the                                                                    
FY 22 pupil transportation category.  The chart in the lower                                                                    
right  showed   that  the   district  had   been  supporting                                                                    
transportation funds with general  fund dollars for at least                                                                    
five  years.  The  first  bullet  on  the  left  showed  the                                                                    
district  would  spend  $4.2 million  in  general  funds  to                                                                    
support pupil transportation. From FY  18 through FY 22, the                                                                    
district  spent  $6.7  million  out  of  general  funds  for                                                                    
transportation. He noted there would  be savings in FY 23 as                                                                    
a  result of  the  month-long school  bus  driver strike  in                                                                    
addition to  service failures due  to a lack of  drivers. He                                                                    
did not  believe it was  a coincidence  that all of  the big                                                                    
five school  districts had struggled with  transportation in                                                                    
the current year  given there had been no  increase in eight                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Trani  moved to  slide  3  and  highlighted the  FY  22                                                                    
capital projects  fund balance of  $13.5 million and  the FY                                                                    
22 total from other governmental  funds of $32.3 million. He                                                                    
explained that because  there had been a  moratorium on bond                                                                    
debt reimbursement,  the Mat-Su  Central School had  a lease                                                                    
running  out and  would not  have a  home. The  district was                                                                    
partnering with the  borough to build the school  a new home                                                                    
and  $10.5 million  of the  $13.5 million  had already  been                                                                    
transferred to  the borough for  construction in  the coming                                                                    
summer.  The  remaining fund  balance  after  June 30,  2023                                                                    
would be approximately $3 million for things like carpet.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Trani pointed to a chart  on the bottom right of slide 3                                                                    
and highlighted  the nonspendable  category of  $8.2 million                                                                    
shown   in  black.   The  category   included  things   like                                                                    
subscriptions to  curriculum and  technology. He  noted that                                                                    
the district purchased  the items for years  into the future                                                                    
to get  a better rate. He  relayed that about $3  million of                                                                    
the total  was for inventory including  food. The restricted                                                                    
category  shown  in  gray was  $2.8  million  and  reflected                                                                    
unspent student  allotments for correspondence  students. He                                                                    
stated it was  money that had been promised  to families and                                                                    
could not  be used by  the district. The  committed category                                                                    
shown in blue included  $14.88 million in student activities                                                                    
and  renewal/replacement funds.  He elaborated  that schools                                                                    
raised money for the various  sports teams. The district had                                                                    
gone  to  a  one  to  one initiative  due  to  COVID-19.  He                                                                    
detailed  that each  student  had a  computer  to take  home                                                                    
starting  in third  grade. The  fund worked  to support  the                                                                    
refresh and renewal of computers annually.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Trani  reviewed the assigned category  with $6.3 million                                                                    
shown  in red.  The category  included self-insurance,  food                                                                    
service funds,  and other projects. He  explained that other                                                                    
projects included  things like elevator upgrades.  He stated                                                                    
that  although $45  million to  $46 million  between capital                                                                    
project  funds  and other  governmental  funds  was a  large                                                                    
amount of  money, the  funds had either  been spent  or were                                                                    
not available to the district.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Trani  discussed the district's  COVID funding  on slide                                                                    
4. He  highlighted that as  of December [2022]  the district                                                                    
had  $24  million in  COVID  funds.  He clarified  that  the                                                                    
figure did  not include the  money the district  expected to                                                                    
spend in the third and  fourth quarters of the current year.                                                                    
The  district  anticipated  it  would  be  down  to  $14.391                                                                    
million in  COVID relief funds.  He relayed that all  of the                                                                    
funds  were included  in the  district's current  budget for                                                                    
the coming year.  The slide listed ways the  COVID funds had                                                                    
been used  by the district  and the largest  expenditure had                                                                    
been  maintaining staffing  to keep  class sizes  as low  as                                                                    
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Trani advanced  to slide  5 and  highlighted the  FY 23                                                                    
general fund unreserved ending fund  balance. He pointed out                                                                    
that the  number had increased  from $15 million in  2022 to                                                                    
$24  million in  2023. The  district was  trying to  be very                                                                    
transparent  because he  did not  want people  to think  the                                                                    
district was  hiding money. The  district was in a  long and                                                                    
protracted  bargaining with  two of  its largest  unions. He                                                                    
reported that  MSBSD was the  ninth largest employer  in the                                                                    
state  and   had  thousands   of  employees.   The  district                                                                    
anticipated that  any settlement  that would  hopefully come                                                                    
over the  summer would  include work  that had  already been                                                                    
done. He  communicated that  a 2 percent  raise for  the two                                                                    
groups would  cost the district approximately  $3 million in                                                                    
the current year  and would carry forward to  the next year.                                                                    
He stated  if the  contract was  settled at  a raise  of 2.2                                                                    
percent, it  would represent $9  million. He  explained that                                                                    
the result  would be a  very limited available  fund balance                                                                    
of about  6 percent. He  informed the committee that  by the                                                                    
end  of the  next  school  year it  would  be  out of  COVID                                                                    
funding. He provided  a brief summary of the  numbers in his                                                                    
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:08:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   thanked  Mr.   Trani  for   the  detailed                                                                    
breakdown of the numbers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  asked  about reporting  and  keeping  DEED                                                                    
informed  on  a  better  basis. He  asked  for  Mr.  Trani's                                                                    
thoughts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Trani believed  the district's  finance department  was                                                                    
capable  of  providing updates  to  DEED  on a  more  robust                                                                    
reporting  schedule.  He  noted  the numbers  would  not  be                                                                    
audited  given the  audit only  occurred  once annually.  He                                                                    
stated that  the district was  very good at  predicting what                                                                    
it would have.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Trani  requested  to  share  additional  testimony.  He                                                                    
reported that MSBSD was one  of the rare school districts in                                                                    
the state that was growing.  He explained there were cuts in                                                                    
the  budget  that  could  not  be  seen.  The  district  was                                                                    
expecting  an  additional  250   to  300  elementary  school                                                                    
students. He  explained that when the  district budgeted, it                                                                    
was not budgeting  to add the normal number  of employees it                                                                    
would  take   to  operate  a  new   elementary  school.  The                                                                    
district's budget was  built on the $30 increase  to the BSA                                                                    
in statute and  all of the one-time funds. He  stated it was                                                                    
different than other districts the  committee had heard from                                                                    
such as Juneau. He explained  there were hidden cuts because                                                                    
MSBSD was adding students faster than it was adding staff.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:10:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon   referenced  [the   governor's   proposed                                                                    
legislation for]  teacher bonuses. He gathered  the district                                                                    
was doing  well with  teacher recruitment and  retention and                                                                    
likely  did  not need  bonuses  in  order to  continue  that                                                                    
trend.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Trani  responded that the district  dedicated two entire                                                                    
staff  to work  on teacher  recruitment and  retention year-                                                                    
round.  He  reported  that  the  district  had  a  challenge                                                                    
recruiting  special education  teachers.  He referenced  his                                                                    
earlier  testimony that  the district's  bus contractor  was                                                                    
unable to hire  bus drivers. He relayed he  had just visited                                                                    
a high school in the district  that had been without a front                                                                    
office staff  member since before Christmas.  The school had                                                                    
tried to hire  the position multiple times and  had lost one                                                                    
person  after  a day  because  they  were offered  a  higher                                                                    
paying  job  elsewhere.  During his  three  years  with  the                                                                    
district, they had never had  a full contingent of janitors.                                                                    
He  stated  that  attracting  teachers  was  important  (and                                                                    
salaries  and  benefits  helped with  that  goal),  but  the                                                                    
district needed  support within the  BSA because it  was not                                                                    
the only category the district had filling.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  thanked  Mr. Trani  for  presenting.  She                                                                    
appreciated  the effort  and consistency  he had  brought to                                                                    
MSBSD.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  how   many  teachers  in  the                                                                    
district were untenured.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Trani  estimated  that each  year  the  district  hired                                                                    
between  100 and  150 new  teachers  per year,  and it  took                                                                    
three years to  become tenured. He estimated  there could be                                                                    
450 untenured  teachers (out of approximately  1,200) at any                                                                    
given time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  provided   a  scenario   where  the                                                                    
governor's bonus bill passed. She  asked if teachers given a                                                                    
$5,000 hiring bonus  in Mat-Su would be likely  to leave for                                                                    
a district with a $15,000 per year bonus.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Trani   stated  that  districts  on   the  road  system                                                                    
generally  attracted  teachers from  the  bush;  it did  not                                                                    
generally go  the other  way. He  considered that  a $15,000                                                                    
bonus could potentially  encourage a teacher to  move to the                                                                    
bush for  a job. He  was unsure.  He stated there  were just                                                                    
not  enough  teachers in  Alaska  to  go  around to  all  54                                                                    
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:16:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  thanked Mr.  Trani for his  work. She                                                                    
appreciated the  information that  Mr. Trani  provided about                                                                    
the graduation  rate, advanced placement classes  and other.                                                                    
She stated it  was phenomenal work particularly  in light of                                                                    
emerging from  a pandemic. She  hoped the  legislature could                                                                    
award the district with predictable funding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Trani thanked the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:16:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY  RATLIFF,  CHIEF  FINANCIAL OFFICER,  ANCHORAGE  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT   (via  teleconference),   provided  a   PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation titled "Anchorage  School District Fund Balance                                                                    
and  Fiscal Outlook"  (copy on  file). The  Anchorage School                                                                    
District  (ASD) average  daily membership  (ADM) was  almost                                                                    
44,000, about  34 percent  of the state's  total ADM  and 38                                                                    
percent   of   the   brick   and   mortar   students   (non-                                                                    
correspondence). The  district had  95 schools, 33  of which                                                                    
were  Title 1.  The district  had  $351 million  out of  the                                                                    
total $1.03 billion (33.9 percent  of the total funding). He                                                                    
recognized  that $351  million was  a substantial  amount of                                                                    
money,  but  the  district  had   a  significant  number  of                                                                    
students. He  did not  believe it was  accurate to  say that                                                                    
Anchorage had a  lot more money compared  to other districts                                                                    
when comparing to its ADM.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  looked at slide 3  and discussed FY 22  and the                                                                    
remaining  COVID  relief  funding.  He  explained  that  the                                                                    
district was only reporting funds  spent through December 31                                                                    
and  it did  not account  for the  third and  fourth quarter                                                                    
spending.  He  noted  that  the  district's  fourth  quarter                                                                    
spending  would  be  considerably  higher  because  teachers                                                                    
received  two paychecks  in May  to help  pay them  into the                                                                    
summer. Additionally,  there were  June summer  school costs                                                                    
of $4  million to  $5 million.  The district  was projecting                                                                    
slightly more  than $20 million  remaining for FY  24, which                                                                    
had already  been allocated to  mitigate further  class size                                                                    
increases.  The district  was currently  projecting a  class                                                                    
size increase  of one across  all grade levels. Some  of the                                                                    
uses of COVID funds  included class size retention/reduction                                                                    
(one of  the large  expenditure items for  FY 23,  about 477                                                                    
FTE   were  included   at   about   $56  million),   virtual                                                                    
instruction,  Chromebooks   for  remote   learning,  reading                                                                    
interventions,  summer  school,   air  quality  improvement,                                                                    
mental  health supports,  charter school  support, PPE,  and                                                                    
instructional software.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:20:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff moved to slide 4  and continued to discuss FY 22                                                                    
fund   balances  and   remaining  COVID   funding.  Of   the                                                                    
unreserved  general  fund  money  of  $71.7  million,  $25.7                                                                    
million  was  restricted  preserve the  municipality's  bond                                                                    
rating. There  was $46  million in  unreserved funds  at the                                                                    
end  of FY  22, which  equated to  just under  one month  of                                                                    
expenditures.  The  district  anticipated the  amount  would                                                                    
grow  a bit  in the  current year  because the  district had                                                                    
saved $16 million that it  received out of its proportionate                                                                    
share of  the $57 million  one-time funds  for FY 13  and it                                                                    
had numerous  unfilled positions.  The saved money  would go                                                                    
towards  next   year's  budget.   There  was   $3.1  million                                                                    
remaining  in  transportation  funds, $2.4  million  of  the                                                                    
amount would  go towards  shoring up the  FY 24  budget. The                                                                    
capital projects  fund of $16 million  was generated through                                                                    
voter  approved  bonds  and  could not  be  used  for  other                                                                    
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  moved to slide  5 and discussed  the district's                                                                    
other governmental  funds. There  was $90.5 million  in debt                                                                    
service.  The  district  had  about  $4.1  million  in  from                                                                    
property tax  proceeds, which was restricted  to repay debt.                                                                    
The remaining  $86.4 million from  prior years  state school                                                                    
bond debt reimbursement  paid by the state at the  end of FY                                                                    
22, which had been transferred  to ASD's capital projects to                                                                    
help address the $900  million deferred maintenance backlog.                                                                    
Additional restricted  funds included food  service, student                                                                    
activities,  federal  impact  aid, and  self-insurance.  The                                                                    
district  had  $28.6  million in  encumbrances  for  ongoing                                                                    
projects,  almost  $18 million  of  which  was reserved  for                                                                    
charter school  carryovers and 10.7 million  was for ongoing                                                                    
maintenance  projects  (i.e.,  IT  equipment  and  software,                                                                    
curriculum adoptions,  and audits). A portion  of funds also                                                                    
went to required prepaid items.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:23:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff addressed the district's  FY 24 outlook on slide                                                                    
6.  The district's  FY 24  budget had  been approved  by the                                                                    
school board and assembly. The  budget relied on $45 million                                                                    
in fund  balance and savings  would be  spent down to  the 8                                                                    
percent school  board minimum. Of  the 8 percent  minimum, 4                                                                    
percent was  reserved to preserve  bond ratings.  The budget                                                                    
also  relied  on  $20  million in  COVID  funding  to  limit                                                                    
increases in class size; it  also increased teacher ratio by                                                                    
one at all grade levels.  Class sizes would be increasing in                                                                    
FY  24.  He  reported  that  the ASD's  FY  25  deficit  was                                                                    
expected to be  $85 million to $90 million  based on current                                                                    
funding  and 3  percent  inflation. He  emphasized that  the                                                                    
absence  of a  BSA increase  would cause  immeasurable havoc                                                                    
during the  district's budgeting process. He  explained that                                                                    
the district presented  its budget to the  board in January.                                                                    
If the district had one-time funds  or did not know what the                                                                    
BSA would be  for the following year, it had  to balance its                                                                    
budget based on current statute.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  underscored that  a deficit  of $85  million to                                                                    
$90  million  was  900  to  1,000  positions.  The  district                                                                    
started  doing its  staffing in  March and  April; if  staff                                                                    
were not in  place, they would begin looking  for other jobs                                                                    
in different  districts, states, or industries.  He stressed                                                                    
the importance of reliable, predictable  funding in order to                                                                    
create a  financial plan and  to avoid losing  employees. He                                                                    
added that  even if funding came  back in May or  June prior                                                                    
to  the start  of the  next fiscal  year, it  would be  much                                                                    
harder to add positions and  hire people if they had already                                                                    
found other jobs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff advocated  for a  permanent  BSA increase  with                                                                    
inflation proofing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:26:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  looked  UGF of  $71.7  million  on                                                                    
slide  4. She  referenced Mr.  Ratliff's testimony  that $25                                                                    
million  of the  total went  to preserve  the municipality's                                                                    
bond rating  and $46 million  was unreserved. She  asked for                                                                    
more detail on the $46 million.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff responded that when  DEED set the UGF balances                                                                      
he believed  Anchorage was the  only district with  the bond                                                                    
rating    the truly unreserved  money was unassigned  in the                                                                    
district's fund balance. Some of  the funding was outside of                                                                    
the board policy of an  8 percent minimum [fund balance]. He                                                                    
stated the  funds could be  spent if needed, but  the amount                                                                    
was enough for a little under one month of expenditures.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:28:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  appreciated   the  presentation  and                                                                    
slide 2 explaining the large  amount ASD was looking at. She                                                                    
thought it appeared  to be 0.06 less than  the percentage of                                                                    
students.  She referenced  the $85  million  to $90  million                                                                    
deficit  in FY  25 based  on current  funding and  3 percent                                                                    
inflation.  She  asked  what   BSA  number  would  keep  the                                                                    
district whole (excluding inflation).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  replied that it  depended on how the  issue was                                                                    
looked at.  He stated  that if the  district wanted  to burn                                                                    
through some  of its fund  balance it could do  so. However,                                                                    
if  the district  was able  to put  the $45  million towards                                                                    
some of  its unfunded  deferred maintenance backlog  and add                                                                    
back  the PTR  [pupil  to teacher  ratio]  increase of  $7.4                                                                    
million, the  BSA increase  would need to  be about  $715 to                                                                    
cover the $52.4 million. He  added that $20 million in ESSER                                                                    
money that would  have to be spent in FY  24. He thought the                                                                    
district would need an additional $530  in the BSA for FY 25                                                                    
to cover all of the one-time money and PTR.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  stated it  helped her  appreciate the                                                                    
"COVID  cliff." She  detailed that  once the  [federal COVID                                                                    
relief] funds  were gone it  would be a  substantial change.                                                                    
She asked if Mr.  Ratliff's answer included increasing class                                                                    
size.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff answered that the  BSA increase would enable the                                                                    
district to restore the one PTR increase.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon  thanked   the  co-chairs   for  providing                                                                    
substantial  time   talking  to  school  districts   on  two                                                                    
different  occasions. He  listed the  Alaska Gateway  School                                                                    
District,  Lake  and  Peninsula  School  District,  and  the                                                                    
Fairbanks, Mat-Su,  Anchorage, and Juneau  school districts.                                                                    
He noted  his list may  be missing other districts  that had                                                                    
testified. He  stated the  need to  provide more  support to                                                                    
schools  was  undisputed.  He suspected  the  BSA  would  be                                                                    
increased  during the  current session,  but the  amount was                                                                    
unknown at  present. He believed  the BSA increase  would be                                                                    
insufficient.   He   thought   there  would   be   continued                                                                    
backsliding  in  the  state's public  education  system,  in                                                                    
addition  to continued  erosion of  the quality  of services                                                                    
provided  across  the state.  His  third  takeaway from  the                                                                    
testimony was  the need for improved  reporting. He believed                                                                    
the document provided by DEED  failed to capture the picture                                                                    
of  the current  situation  with the  school districts.  Yet                                                                    
coincidentally,  the information  was sufficient  enough for                                                                    
DEED to play a role  in putting together the teacher bonuses                                                                    
legislation.  He continued  that the  legislation broke  the                                                                    
teacher  bonuses into  three tiers  where teachers  in rural                                                                    
areas would  earn a  bonus of  $15,000, teachers  in midsize                                                                    
schools would  earn $10,000, and  teachers in  larger, urban                                                                    
schools would earn $5,000. He  highlighted that larger urban                                                                    
schools that arguably  had an equal or greater  need in some                                                                    
respects for  additional resources,  would have  the smaller                                                                    
bonus. He relayed  that if the teacher bonuses  bill came to                                                                    
the  House Finance  Committee  he  would seriously  consider                                                                    
amending it  to make it  permanent, make it  more reflective                                                                    
of the smaller schools that  had a difficult time recruiting                                                                    
and retaining, and trimming back  some of the costs involved                                                                    
in  the $57  million  annual  price tag,  which  he did  not                                                                    
believe was  sustainable. He  thought providing  bonuses for                                                                    
three years  was a short-term  panacea band aid.  He thought                                                                    
an intersection had been reached  and something needed to be                                                                    
done for public education in the current session.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster stated  public testimony  and an  amendment                                                                    
deadline had yet to be  determined. He spoke about different                                                                    
options for education.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HB  65  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 50 NEW FN DCCED AOGCC 042423.pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 65 FNSB FY24 House Finance 04.27.23.pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 65
HB 65 FNSB School Fund Balance 042723.pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 65
HB 65 Anchorage SD - HFIN 4.28.23.pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 65
HB 65 MSBSD Slides House Finance 042823.pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 65
HB65 LPSD House Finance 4.28.23 (1).pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 65
HB 50 NEW FN DCCED AOGCC 042823.pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 65 Public Testimony Rec'd by 050923.pdf HFIN 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 65